hoffa or someone else connected to jimmy hoffa? >> well, we have just gotten this information so we have just been able to dig up who owned that property and i went to the registered own they are morning and a man by the name of frankel ferry. unfortunately, i haven't had a chance to find out a lot of information about him. police are not giving us a lot of information. but we are working to get that right now. >> just like -- i mean, we have heard -- we have been down this road so many times before, kim. so, i mean, are police more hopeful this time, that this is -- they say it is a credible tip but they have saidhat in the past, too. >> you know what? i talked to the -- an investigator who was very close to this case and he didn't want to go on the record but he said that it is very unlikely that this is where jimmy hoffa's body was left. there is a lot of evidence over the years that his body was incinerated and really have very little hope of finding his body, however, the tip checked without this anomaly, when they took the ra